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Victor, I tried a similar script of asking for more than a TSH test from my endocrinologist (Stanford educated and trained). He said no. So I replied, “Well, perhaps you should justify YOUR rationale for only testing TSH” and I will quote from his written email response to me: “Many of the aspects of thyroid hormone metabolism that you commented on are not easily measurable in the individual person and can only be addressed in a research setting where tissue biopsies were obtained and analyzed. The measurement of the serum levels gives little information about T3 or T4 uptake into the cells or T4-T3 conversion within the nucleus.” He goes on to ask ME the following questions: “How would you use different combinations of results on serum measurements? Suppose the TSH is mid-normal. What type of treatment might you seek if your free T4 is high normal or mildly elevated in the setting of a mid normal T3, or a free T4 mid to high normal with a low normal free T3 or a higher than normal free T3 and a mid normal free T4?” He goes on to add: “I am not sure how you are linking glucose metabolism with your thyroid hormone levels and would need to better understand that to respond.” He ends his email to me with this: “I am open to your discussion so I challenge you to tell me how you would use the different combination of results I listed above.” Really. This email exchange took place in 2024. Because of your posts, I now feel equipped to answer his ridiculous gaslighting but because I can, I stopped being his patient after 30 years. This is the same endocrinologist who asked me if I wanted to go on Metformin when I told him I wanted to address my rising glucose. The same doctor who refused to order a fasting insulin. With every post, Victor, you give us, your readers, the power to turn away from these arrogant terrible doctors and reclaim our health. Also, I no longer have Hashimoto’s. I feel foolish that I went to this man for 30 years, but I also feel empowered that I no longer need to listen to him. Thank you.

Noa Beau's avatar

I went ER 11 years ago with messed up thyroid and asked them to do thyroid bloodwork. They of course did only TSH.

The physician said - everything is ok. I asked to see the sheet. It read, TSH: 4.69. (My normal used to be 1.15). It's hard to describe the gut punch feeling you get when a medical authority figure keeps telling you you are ok but your own body is falling apart. Yet so many of us experience it.

After 8 years of that, I finally went to an ND. She ran the full thyroid panel,  TSH was 2.3, other things were within "normal" limits, and she as well convinced me my thyroid needed no support.

Another 3 miserable years went by and I finally begged her to start me on a mini dose of thyroid. She finally agreed. Second day of taking it I felt like a new person, and I still do, 2 months after starting.

I do get angry, thinking of those 11 years of misery, depression, fatigue, anxiety --yet all responsibilities tended to, all the meals made, all the laundry folded, all the work completed,  despite falling apart constantly--that 15mg (and then 30mg daily) of thyroid resolved in less then 48 hrs

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